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9th Jul 2014, 12:00 AM

Bending Will. And Arms...
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kidra on 16th Mar 2015, 8:42 AM

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This is actually the end of what I had planned out for the Captains. So now I either have to think of/shoot new scenes, or move on to another thing for filler strips.



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Clonchrooper on 16th Mar 2015, 10:35 AM

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Or you could just use the time you spend on filler strips to work on normal strips?

Hamof on 16th Mar 2015, 10:49 AM

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I agree.

MeaRiver on 17th Mar 2015, 5:23 AM

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Uh... do you guys not understand the reason that filler strips exist? Honestly.

Hamof on 17th Mar 2015, 6:44 AM

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I don't mind him missing an update, as long as he's actually using that time on another strip of the actual comic.

MeaRiver on 17th Mar 2015, 10:27 AM

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I'm trying to figure out how to explain this to you, because it sounds like you don't follow a lot of webcomickers or other content creators online. But like... filler comics like this, and sketch posts and other stuff people post in place of an update... they don't actually take away time from the actual comic. It's a quick, easy, low-stress way to keep on schedule (making that a habit is SUPER IMPORTANT as a creator), and to let people know that they haven't dropped off the face of the earth.

Don't like that there's not a new page? Fine. Don't like the type of filler posted? Fine. Don't like the fact that filler exists at all? Not cool. Also the fact that you're basically walking up to the guy's front door--a guy who's investing time and energy into this thing that you love and is sharing it for free-- and telling him that his efforts to entertain you as he's finishing up the main product? That's super rude, dude.

Just because it's a screencap comic doesn't mean that it's easy to put together. They have to write the comic, plan out the panels, find screenshots, deal with all the speechbubbles and sound effects....

The photocomics are a thousand times easier and quicker, and if they took time away from the actual comic they WOULDN'T BE MAKING THEM. (Also I'm pretty sure this comic is done by two guys, with the set-up being Guy A writes the script and gets the screenshots, and then Guy B makes the panels and adds in the speech bubbles, and then it's Guy A who makes the filler while Guy B finishes off a page. So chill, it really ISN'T taking any time away.)

.... damn I ramble. I chat with a number of webcomickers that I follow (no these guys though) and they always deal with ungrateful fans, so I kinda wanted to say this sort of thing for a while. I hope I didn't come off as angry, I'm not--I'm just hoping that you'll listen.

Some User on 17th Mar 2015, 12:38 PM

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He has a point gentlemen.

Hamof on 17th Mar 2015, 12:50 PM

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I had assumed that filler took almost as much time as the actual comic, but I suppose that was a stupid idea, where did I get that from? And I didn't really think about the whole "Staying in the habit of staying on schedule" thing, All I thought about was that he was putting time into making ultimately meaningless filler (because we are after all, here for the main comic.) when he could be putting time into the comic itself. I didn't think about all these things you mentioned. I also wasn't entirely aware of the dynamic between the two (At the time I posted that comment, I didn't really think about the fact that there are two of them at all, hence why I said him rather than they.)

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XiaoKe on 17th Mar 2015, 2:53 PM

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Yeah just to clarify it is 2 of us. Kidra writes the scripts and plans it out. I find the screenshots, edit, and put it all together, then Kidra usually goes over it to make sure it all looks good and ready to go. The filler strips are done by Kidra when I'm not able to get the strip done in time so that we still have something going up so you guys dont think we've abandoned ship. The scripts and planning are still going at a normal pace but sometimes when life gets in the way or something happens that will impact my being able to make a quality strip I postpone it till the next one. The fillers take no time away from the actual comic getting done they are merely a way for us to still post something when we just are not able to get it all up and taken care of

MeaRiver on 17th Mar 2015, 6:16 PM

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No problem dude. Glad I could be of service. *curtsies of prances off into the sunset*

Filler

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kidra on 17th Mar 2015, 6:08 PM

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So I spent most of today trying to think of how to best address this, only to see that MeaRiver and XiaoKe had already talked about it more effectively than I would have. So thanks guys!

One of the questions we were asked a few times in our survey was the process of making a strip. We'll probably answer that for everyone more in-depth, but I can say that a filler strip takes much less time. It only takes about 10 minutes to take all the pictures/write scripts in my head for these filler, whereas it takes me about 10 minutes to write a script (on average. Some scripts take longer, some much shorter.)

So a filler strip takes about 30-45 minutes total, but an actual strip takes at least twice that I'd guesstimate.

Note: This isn't meant to "yell" at the people who were asking about doing normal strips rather than filler, but for anyone who was interested about the process. Like I said, we'll have a more in-depth explanation for the regular strips.

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Barreytor on 16th Mar 2015, 12:55 PM

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Try with filler made of badly photoshopped cutouts from movies.

Kaze Koichi on 18th Mar 2015, 12:30 PM

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I wonder what kind of fillers are you goona to do next? Do you REALLY have only Steve action figures (and one Hulk)? That's kinda extreme. I was collecting action figures and sometimes I bought more then 1 of the same caracter, but never more then 3. And I have a lot of characters which I have only 1 of each.

MeaRiver on 18th Mar 2015, 3:31 PM

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I think fanart might be cool? You'd just have to contact the artists and get permission and then link them and stuff. I don't know how much fanart you'd get for this comic in particular, but maybe just get Avengers fanart and lol about how it relates to the webcomicverse in the news post? I know for a fact there's fanart of the Avengers playing DnD.

Or maybe even finding cosplayer photos (with the permission of the cosplayers themselves, naturally) then loling about "what if this was a larp?"

filler

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kidra on 18th Mar 2015, 10:32 PM

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I had actually thought about fan art, but yeah we wouldn't get much for our comic and I feel like it wouldn't be the same to post other people's work on our site unless it ties into the comic.

More recently I've really been attracted to the idea of the filler strips being their own story. That's why I've done the captain America ones recently. But I'm also wanting to try some other stuff as well.

Figures

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kidra on 18th Mar 2015, 10:29 PM

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Funnily enough, this really is about all I have. About half of them were gifts and the rest were pretty cheap. I guess I gave the Marvel Heroscape set, how did I forget about that?
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